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new rig, looking to save $
Last post 12-16-2008, 11:06 PM by Joe88. 30 replies.
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new rig, looking to save $
xmas is coming up so im gonna try to ask for a new comp...
I posted this a few other forums and already cut out some bulk -$50 for 3rd party HSF -$60 mobo from P45 to P35 -$50 went from diamond brand 4870 to HIS brand -$20 front panel audio + usb + firewire -$10 dual case light kit -$10 converter 5.3 to 3.5 bay so anywhere else I can shave off some $ ? dont try to convince me on a different case, thats deadset or gfx card (no nivida zealots plz) too, cpu is as low as the new wolfdale cores are (planning to mega OC to get money's worth ^_^ )
also the PSU seems the best for the money, I know people are gonna come in and post $100+ PSU's, im trying to save money here though not add it on else where, that one should work fine also I know floppy's are no longer used, pls dont not post this, I know, I still however have them lying around, and always nice to have to get into DOS or flash bios with... in addition to those componets I also have 2 IDE hard drives and 2 DVD-ROM + DVD-RW drives right now, so I do need that rosewill IDE+ sata controller card also I need it for the 360...
now that it out of the way~ begin thread
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| 11-20-2008, 3:54 AM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
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#1:MSI K9A2 790FX/AMD Phenom 9950BE125w OC 3.12/Xiggie120/Antec1200/OCZ 2X2Gb Reapers PC2 8500/HD4870 1GB ASUS/F1 Spinpoint 640GB&320GB-SATA/PCPC 750W CF Silencer/ LITE-ON & ASUS DVD±R/Vista 64-bit & XP/Dual 22" HannaG Mons/ WD My Book 500GB/Logitech X-530 70 watts RMS 5.1 Black Speaker System /#2:Biostar 780G/AMD 6000+x2/OCZ PlatRev2 2x1GB DDR2800 /Logysis-Acrylic/Vista/Ubuntu 8.1 / Corsair 550W PSU/#3:E8500/Gigabyte P45/HD4850/Xiggie 120/OCZ StlhStrm 700W, CM HAF /mushkinBlack/ Lansing FX4021s
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| 11-20-2008, 6:57 AM |
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cincyguy
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
mega oc without aftermarket cooling? am i the only one that sees something wrong with that statement?
and why spend $170 on an outdated p35 mobo when you can get a p5q pro with the p45 chipeset for around $100 after $15 mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299
and a wireless pci card for around 20 bills...maybe less http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16839121008
good thing about that board to is you'll have the option to xfire down the road if ya feel the need for another 4870...just my .02 happy building
oh yah before i forget you'll prolly have to have a older tech cpu to update your bios on the p35 to accept the wolfdale but i'm not 100% possitive
good friends and a bottle of pills
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| 11-20-2008, 2:32 PM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
I'm not sure I would claim that the PSU is the best for the money without at least some sort of evidence such as a review or something. Personally, I haven't seen a review of it myself, but just from the fact that I've never heard of it, it isn't even 80% efficient, and is more than half as cheap as any other respectable 500w-600w unit is normally a good indicator that you're going to get what you pay for. Personally, I wouldn't risk purchasing a product that is the life line of my computer without doing a fair amount of research.
The case might be a bit of a tight fit with that video card, I didn't think the case was very good build quality at all when I used it for a build for my roommate. My Coolermaster Centurion 5 which I payed $20 less for seemed a bit more roomy and was noticeably superior in quality. Deciding on a case because of looks is always a personal thing though, so the only thing we can say about that are our own experiences and you can take what you like from it. I agree, you saying you plan on overclocking the nuts off that processor yet not having an HSF in your cart is rather odd. The HSF that CPU would come with is a half height one compared to any quad core or 65nm Core 2 Duos. For the motherboard, I would recommend going with the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R or UD3P as they are quite superior to the board you have listed, and cheaper.
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| 11-20-2008, 2:56 PM |
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Joe88
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
 cincyguy:mega oc without aftermarket cooling? am i the only one that sees something wrong with that statement?
and why spend $170 on an outdated p35 mobo when you can get a p5q pro with the p45 chipeset for around $100 after $15 mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299
and a wireless pci card for around 20 bills...maybe less http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16839121008
good thing about that board to is you'll have the option to xfire down the road if ya feel the need for another 4870...just my .02 happy building
oh yah before i forget you'll prolly have to have a older tech cpu to update your bios on the p35 to accept the wolfdale but i'm not 100% possitive
would I lose any other features (besides wifi) if I went with the P5Q Pro ? I dont think I will add another gfx card for xfire down the road, it will almsto likely be single card setup then I will replace it and sell the card or give it someone else, and the psu will have enough to just run a 4870, going from 9250 PCI to a 4870
think I will just skip the wifi then, I also forgot about the last part about needed an older CPU to update bios, you are probably right also I probably used the word "mega" loosely, I read a few reviews that got it to 3.3ghz on stock HSF, thats find for me, 3ghz would be fine too, im going from a P4 @ 2.4ghz should so I be happy with it :) jsv35: I'm not sure I would claim that the PSU is the
best for the money without at least some sort of evidence such as a
review or something. Personally, I haven't seen a review of it myself,
but just from the fact that I've never heard of it, it isn't even 80%
efficient, and is more than half as cheap as any other respectable
500w-600w unit is normally a good indicator that you're going to get
what you pay for. Personally, I wouldn't risk purchasing a product
that is the life line of my computer without doing a fair amount of
research.
The case might be a bit of a tight fit with that
video card, I didn't think the case was very good build quality at all
when I used it for a build for my roommate. My Coolermaster Centurion
5 which I payed $20 less for seemed a bit more roomy and was noticeably
superior in quality. Deciding on a case because of looks is always a
personal thing though, so the only thing we can say about that are our
own experiences and you can take what you like from it. I agree,
you saying you plan on overclocking the nuts off that processor yet not
having an HSF in your cart is rather odd. The HSF that CPU would come
with is a half height one compared to any quad core or 65nm Core 2
Duos. For the motherboard, I would recommend going with the
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R or UD3P as they are quite superior to the board
you have listed, and cheaper.
well I think the user reviews on newegg are the best reviews, even got a few people who have been using it over a year now with SLI and still going strong, best bang for buck imo.
for the case, I know it isnt exactly "ultra sturdy", but its going to be sitting on a desk, not being caried around and such, I think the 4870 is about 10" long, from reviews ive read it should fit in with a bit room to spare, but also come on tell me that case doesnt look amazing? I just love the overall design of the case, from the clear front door, temp meter, lights on the front, manual drive instal (most cases are tooless, not a fan of them...), im will to sacrifice for the looks of the case see the above quote for answer for HSF, I shouldnt have used that word, mid OC might have been a better word
thanx for the suggestions, keep em coming :)
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| 11-20-2008, 3:18 PM |
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jsv35
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
Joe88: well I think the user reviews on newegg are the best reviews, even got a few people who have been using it over a year now with SLI and still going strong, best bang for buck imo.
for the case, I know it isnt exactly "ultra sturdy", but its going to be sitting on a desk, not being caried around and such, I think the 4870 is about 10" long, from reviews ive read it should fit in with a bit room to spare, but also come on tell me that case doesnt look amazing? I just love the overall design of the case, from the clear front door, temp meter, lights on the front, manual drive instal (most cases are tooless, not a fan of them...), im will to sacrifice for the looks of the case see the above quote for answer for HSF, I shouldnt have used that word, mid OC might have been a better word
thanx for the suggestions, keep em coming :)
User reviews are nice but I hardly recommend purchasing something just based on them. A review from a reputable hardware site is what I was referring to, but if you are satisfied with that and can settle for an outdated design, you are then one who will be buying it in the end and I've pointed out what needs to be pointed out. The case, I really don't think I could have that sitting next to me personally. I prefer a less flashy, more classy case. It may have a lot of features on the front of it, but they are very cheap, lots of plastic and thin metal. The card will definitely fit, I was just alluding to how close to the hard drive cages it would get and how cable management might be a tad more difficult.
Coolermaster Centurion 5 + Coolermaster Real Power Pro 750W
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L + Intel Pentium E5200 @ 280FSBx12.5
2x1GB G.Skill DDR2-800 @ 840 4-4-4-11 1T + XFX 8800GS XXX
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| 11-20-2008, 3:52 PM |
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Joe88
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
ah ok, the case is fine by me, different people just prefer different things there will be 3 hard drives in there, 1 SATA and 2 IDE the psu I know isnt that greatest but will do the job in this rig without too much $, it fits all the power requirments as well as has all the necessary power connectors I need the mobo is the only thing now, the ram too, I think you can get 4GB of ram for that price
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| 11-21-2008, 9:06 AM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
Yup, cases are definitely a personal preference type of issue, so thats cool. I think you'll be able to work around the video card with that many hard drives, but just make sure to keep the video card in mind when installing the hard drives. I really like the Gigabyte more, their new UD3 (Ultra Durable 3) products are really quite amazing quality so far and have been extremely competitive with their pricing. Here is one review of many out there, just takes a bit of googling.
Coolermaster Centurion 5 + Coolermaster Real Power Pro 750W
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L + Intel Pentium E5200 @ 280FSBx12.5
2x1GB G.Skill DDR2-800 @ 840 4-4-4-11 1T + XFX 8800GS XXX
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| 11-21-2008, 10:06 AM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
There is a lot of VERY useful information posted by these members - definitely read it all carefully!
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| 11-21-2008, 3:32 PM |
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Joe88
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
jsv35: Yup, cases are definitely a personal preference type of issue, so thats cool. I think you'll be able to work around the video card with that many hard drives, but just make sure to keep the video card in mind when installing the hard drives. I really like the Gigabyte more, their new UD3 (Ultra Durable 3) products are really quite amazing quality so far and have been extremely competitive with their pricing. Here is one review of many out there, just takes a bit of googling.
that gigabyte board is very tempting right now the bios OC menu vs. ASUS bios oc, how are they? other then that, everything else seems good, just one less internel USB connector but a bunch more rear i/o ports
ASUS needs to make more good board like the P5W DH-Deluxe... Ive been noticing as decline in the quality of their boards over the past few years ive also noticed the P5Q-E for $10 more then the gigabyte, how is it in comparison, p5q-e looks just like the p5q deluxe
and any commecnts on the ram I posted?
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| 11-22-2008, 2:20 AM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
seodeveloping: There is a lot of VERY useful information posted by these members - definitely read it all carefully!
That's what I see too on these boards, sometimes I feel like I really know nothing next to these guys. EDIT: How the hell did you get a badge after being here for a week or two? Do I need to bribe someone? 
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| 11-22-2008, 6:32 PM |
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Joe88
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
so updated list as of now, im most likely going to get the gigabyte,
only mobo and ram have been changed
any objections?
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| 11-22-2008, 9:37 PM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
Definitely looks like a decent build to me!!!
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| 11-23-2008, 5:26 PM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
cincyguy:
I know, but im lucky if I can even get this stuff, I might not even OC (a few posts up I said I had a P4 @ 2.4ghz) so I should be very happy with this upgrade for that CPU, vid card too I will consider it in the future since I just have to snap that one in without removing everything (original HSF pick was the ASUS silent square to go with the P5K D) will bookmark that HSF, thanks for the suggestion :) also no one answered my question from a few posts above "ive also noticed the P5Q-E for $10 more then the gigabyte, how is it in comparison?, p5q-e looks just like the p5q deluxe"
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| 11-24-2008, 3:15 AM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
man...so far great build...mite take a few items off of there for myself however ;)
no expert but here are my thoughts:
what OS are you using? i skimmed through most of the above post but didnt remember seeing an OS selected..
and well here is a cheaper HSF that will get the job done...for MID-OC..cheaper than the xiggy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
personally do you really need the 4870? that is an AMAZING card...but if you can get by with a 4850...then you would save major money...
on the mobo..well i have always used asus mobo's and i have never had a problem with them...no experience with the P5Q-E however but my bet is that either way...you would be getting a great board
and my 2cents....im not an intel man...so u could prolly save money with an amd...but intel is a great choice...but if you really wanted to save some money
have fun and great build so far man.
System Specs
Budget:Undecided...gonna take it slow VGA:Dual Sapphire x1600 pro 256mb...crossfire mode Monitor:Acer 22" Flat LCD
MB:Asus A8R OS:Windows Vista...mistake Browser:
CPU:Amd Ahtlon 64 X2 4600+ Dual Core Sound:5.1 Creative Labs Purpose:
Memory:2gb Corsair xms w/ platinum HS PSU:450w Black Widow Brand:
HD:250gb WD 7400 3.0 Sata Cooling:Thermaltake...cant remember much more Misc:
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| 11-24-2008, 1:48 PM |
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Re: new rig, looking to save $
Chaas: man...so far great build...mite take a few items off of there for myself however ;)
no expert but here are my thoughts:
what OS are you using? i skimmed through most of the above post but didnt remember seeing an OS selected..
and well here is a cheaper HSF that will get the job done...for MID-OC..cheaper than the xiggy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
personally do you really need the 4870? that is an AMAZING card...but if you can get by with a 4850...then you would save major money...
on the mobo..well i have always used asus mobo's and i have never had a problem with them...no experience with the P5Q-E however but my bet is that either way...you would be getting a great board
and my 2cents....im not an intel man...so u could prolly save money with an amd...but intel is a great choice...but if you really wanted to save some money
have fun and great build so far man.
for OS, I will be using Vista Ultimate 32bit (been using it on my current machine) I wanna get a card and not upgrade for a long time(yes I could go 4870X2 but it wouldnt fit and I dont think | | | |